Smith Interests List: page 5
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Member IDs: 2-TAM to 6-DRG

 Column 1: 2-TAM - 3-TER - 4-KAT - 5-MSM

 Column 2: 5-MSM continued  - 6-DRG
Town/s of Interest:
Lancs - Blackburn, Preston, Bury
Researcher: Tammy Beltle 
Location: New Jersey USA  
Email: (updtd 2011) t b e lt l e [at]
Smith Chat Forum Username:  
Online Office Pigeon-hole: 2-tam 
Submitted: 2005/Updtd 2006/Recompiled 2011
Summary of Interests/Message

My great-grandmother,
Rachel Mary Josephine Smith,
born in 1848 at Whalley Banks, Blackburn .
Chr: 1849, St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn Parish Church.
Her parents : Joseph Smith and Nancy (nee Tunstall)

My father's cousin remembered her mother (Rachel) telling her of a "Granny Tunstall" and that the family came from
"Proud Preston", but that's all that she remembered. 

Marriage located for Rachel's parents:
Joseph Smith married Nancy Tunstall,  
31 August 1845 at Saint Johns, Preston Parish Church.  

Joseph Smith was born about 1823 in Preston. He was the son of John and Jane Smith. Joseph's father John Smith was born in Bury about 1791.
10 other children of John & Jane Smith, siblings of Joseph, are also included in the Smith List Ancestors A-Z Index.
Their births range from 1821 to 1848 - most of them known to have been born in Preston.
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In 2002 Preston was officially awarded City status, and St Johns Parish Church was given the title of Preston Minster.
Situated in the town centre where Fishergate meets Church Street, the present church was built in the 19th Century on the site of the old parish church of St Wilfrid.
Town/s of Interest:
Lancs - Eccleston by Chorley, and
Croston & Mawdsley (Croston Parish)
Researcher: Terry Jackson
Location: Oxfordshire, England
Email: t j a c k s [at] w a i t r o s e .com
Smith Chat Forum Username:
Online Office Pigeon-hole: 3-ter
Submitted: 2005/Recompiled 2011
Summary of Interests/Message

These are all siblings of one family and as you can see many of their forenames appear to be surnames.

HATTON was the maiden name of their mother and I am hoping that the other names will turn out to have similar

Ann Hatton Smith ; Thomas Barton Smith ; James Henry Smith ; Elizabeth Taylor Smith ; Barton Smith ; Richard
Hatton Smith ;
Rigby Davies Smith ; William Henry Smith ; Charlotte Hatton Smith; Jane Annesley Smith ; John
Winstanley Smith.

Most of those so far found were cordwainers/shoemakers or boot and shoe retailers. This seems more important
than their religion!
(My Great Great Great Great Grandfather) 
Born: n/k. Married: 7 September 1801 at Eccleston by Chorley to:Barbara Hatton. 
Occupation: 1828-9 and 1837 Pigots : Chorley: Chapel Street Boot & shoe maker.  
If you come across any of these names in your research I would appreciate it if you would please contact me.

Update: found my Barton Smith's family and several of the 'surname/forenames' on the 1841 census in Market Street,

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Eccleston, surrounded by farmland and situated to the west of Chorley
SD5117 : St. Mary's Parish Church, Eccleston by David
St. Mary's Parish Church, Eccleston
  © Copyright David Long and licensed for reuse under this
Creative Commons Licence.
The Church is located in a lovely spot beside the River Yarrow. It is believed there has been a church on the site since 1094.
The stile is beside the Lychgate. The bar stone on the stile is believed to be part of an old tombstone.
Town/s of Interest:
Lancashire - Blackburn
Researcher: Katrina
Location: Gold Coast of Australia
Email: katrinaw e h i p e i h a n a 1 [at] h o t m a i l .com
Smith Chat Forum Username:
Online Office Pigeon-hole: 4-kat
Submitted: July 2005/Recompiled 2011
Summary of Interests/Message

Hi, I am wondering if anyone has a connection to my Smith Family in Blackburn. 
My Great Aunt Sarah Gouldsborough born 1848 married James Smith in Blackburn 1868 and they had the following

Walter Smith born 1869,
Richard 1871, John 1874,
Nancy 1876 (married Ainsworth),
George born 1882,
Arthur and
James born 1886,
Ann 1880 (married name Wood)
Mary Jane born 1890 (married name Slater).

In the 1901 census they were living at 2 Dyson Street Blackburn.

Thanks, katrina.
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Blackburn's old Parish Church of Saint Mary the Virgin was given Cathedral Church status in 1926 when the Diocese of Blackburn was created.
SD6827 : Tower of Blackburn Cathedral by Kenneth
Tower of Blackburn Cathedral
  © Copyright Kenneth Yarham and licensed for reuse under this
Creative Commons Licence.
The tower was completed in 1967
Town/s of Interest:
Lancashire - Brierfield & Nelson
Researcher: Mike Smith
Location : New Zealand
Email: m i k e s [at] k o l . co . nz
Smith Chat Forum Username
: MikeS
Online Office Pigeon-hole: 5-msm
Interests submitted: 2005 / Updates 2006/
Recompiled 2011
Summary of Interests/Message

I have a Sydney Smith, b.c1878 in Brierfield,
married in 1900 to Mary Ellen.
He was the son of:

Sidney Smith, born ?c1857,
(Note the difference in spelling),
married 28 May 1877 at St Lukes, Brierfield.
He was the son of a John Smith.

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5-MSM - continued from Column 1
The John Smith I have would have been born about 1820-ish. I have nothing more on him than a name. John was ..... well .... so common in those days especially linked to a Smith.

Now it seems that Sidney, son of John, was a RAILWAY PORTER in Lancs in the second half of the 19th-C in one of
the various rail services that were about at the time.

By the time his son, Sydney, was married he was living in Nelson where my father was born.

The image below:
.... is a group photo taken circa 1924 in the Burnley area. I'm not sure of who the people are that are in the picture except to say that my father Norman Leslie SMITH is standing
, wearing the black cap in the rear left.

Norman Leslie Smith & pals, Burnley c1924
Les, as he was known, left for New Zealand in 1930, he died there in 1986 in his 75th year. (born 1911 in Brierfield, Burnley, Lancs).

The interesting thing is that my father's brother, James Sidney Smith, was actually born in Portsmouth and not Lancashire, but the connection is with my father, being born Lancashire 1911. It appears that about 1904 when Jim was born they were either living for a time or travelling in Portsmouth area.

Their mother, my Grandmother Mary Ellen Smith died in 1933 on the Isle of Wight and was buried at Shanklin, IOW. Their father, Sydney, then lived to a ripe old age in Scotland for the rest, or most of the rest of his days. He was a veteran of the Boer War of 1899-1902 having served there with the Duke of Wellington Regiment.

The two pictures below, I have edited from a single original that I have, which was taken on the HMS Glorious probably about 1939-40ish.

The first is my Father's brother (James Sidney Smith). The other person - unknown (perhaps someone else will recognise him?)

Notes added by Carole:
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The following database was kindly donated by Mike, compiled from his own research, listing the crew
of the HMS Glorious, HMS Ardent & HMS Acasta. These vessels were all sunk off Norway on June 8 1940, with the loss of 1517 lives & only 39 survivors. Many next of kin details are included.
>> 1940 Crew HMS-NavyShips >>
(link updated February 2012)

Town/s of Interest:
Lancashire - Gt.Harwood, Rishton,
Blackburn, Accrington
Researcher: Rachael G.
Email: d h r g [at] l i n e o n e .net
Smith Chat Forum Username:
Online Office Pigeon-hole: 6-drg
Interests submitted: Aug 2005/Updated Feb.2011
Summary of Interests/Message

My interests are the children and ancestors of:

John SMITH b.c1820 in Great Harwood.
m: 1842 to Ann NOBLE (b.c1815 Ince[-in-Makerfield] nr Wigan)

and their son:
William SMITH b.April 1847 in Rishton.
m: 1865 to Mary STANLEY (b.1845 Wiswell/Whalley)

and their daughter:
Emma SMITH b.Aug 1869 Lowerfold Gt Harwood.
m: 25 Aug 1888, St.Johns, Blackburn,
to Charles NOBLE (b.1868 Rishton)

For John:
I have the 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, and 1881 Censuses. He was a carpenter;

William and Mary:
By the time of their children, they were Roman Catholics at St Wulstan's RC Ch, Gt Harwood.

For Emma, 1869-1933, my gr-grandmother,
I have the 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911 Censuses. In the 1881 Census, she is living with her aunt at the Horse & Jockey, Blackburn, her given age is slightly out.

I have Emma’s birth, marriage, and death cert.
The marriage certificate says that Charles was 21, but he was only 19; & says that Emma was 21, she was probably only just 19.

For Emma’s father William: I have the 1851, 1861, 1871, and 1881 Censuses. He has various occupations. He is in London by 1881 as a railway porter with a different wife, Elizabeth, then ‘disappears’ from Censuses after this.

Other children of William and Mary,
Emma’s siblings, were:

Sophia Noble Smith b.Old Accrington(1866-1903)
Emma Smith (1867–1867)
Martha Ann Smith, b.Old Accrington (1872-1950)(emigrated to Rhode Island, USA).
Clara Smith b.Blackburn (c.1880–?)

It is all a bit of a mystery.
In the 1881 Census, Clara appears as Mary’s daughter, age 1! Did William leave the family and have another wife as indicated by the 1881 Census??
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Great Harwood's Roman Catholic Churches

The few Roman Catholics in the town up to 1856 had no church building. On appointment of the first Parish Priest that year, Masses were then celebrated at his home, a rented cottage in Queen Street. The first Church building, Our Lady and St. Hubert (now a grade II listed building) was founded in 1859.


Because of a massive increase in the town's population over the next 40 years, a second Roman Catholic Church & Parish was needed. Money raised by parishioners enabled a temporary corrugated iron church, St. Wulstan's, in 1912, which served their needs until the permanent St Wulstans building was opened in the 1930s.

In more recent times, the two Roman Catholic Parishes have been merged, and now known as
Our Lady and St Hubert with St Wulstan
(external link)
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