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Column 1 42-MMN to 43-ERS

ID: 42-MMN

Town/s of Interest:

Lancs - Bury area -

Holcombe, Tottington

Researcher: Meryl McNutt

Location: Ramsbottom
Email: m er yl.mc n u t t-_ [at] tiscali.co.uk
Smith Chat Forum Username:mattycat

Online Office Pigeon-hole 42-mmn

Interests submitted: 2005/update 2007



Summary of Interests/Message

I am the Great Geat Grandaughter of

Susannah nee Smith and Peter Smith

both of Holcombe near Bury.

Peter and Susannah were married at

Bury Parish Church in 1811 and had the

following children (one being my

Great Grandfather Edward Smith).



Alice Smith b. 7.2.1812

Richmael/Richmall Smith b 15.12.1813

(died tragically over the moors in 1837)
Ann Smith b 1815
Edward Smith b 1818
Joseph Smith 1820
James Smith 1822
Elizabeth Smith 1826
possibly three more children in

this family



My Great Grandparents:

Edward Smith m Mary Ann Booth

at St Mary Bury 1848

Their children:-

Susannah Smith b 1848
Mary Smith b 1851
Peter Smith b 1853
William Smith b 1855
Elizabeth Smith b 1858
Rachel Ann Smith b 1863



In 1883 my Grandfather

William Smith m Mary Ellen Ingham (Grandparents died before I was born)

Their children:-
Mary Smith b 1885
Harry Smith b 1887
Elizabeth Smith b 1889
Stanley Smith b 1900 my Father
Dorothy Smith 1904



Marriages & Baptisms

of my Smiths direct line from

Holcombe and surrounding area.


Saint Mary's Parish Church Bury
1786 bpt Susannah Smith

..... (father Thomas Smith)
1791 bpt Peter Smith
1811 Peter Smith m Susannah Smith
1848 Edward Smith m Mary Ann Booth

..... (son of Peter & Susannah)


(I have family other than Smiths

who married at St. Mary Bury)



Baptism at St. Anne, Tottington,
Edward Smith baptised 8.6.1818

(later lived in Holcombe village)

Baptisms at Emanuel,

Holcombe Village near Ramsbottom,
William Smith baptised 8.5.1855
Stanley Smith baptised 1901

Emanuel, Holcombe

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Column 2 44-DSM to 45-SHE

ID: 44-DSM

Town/s of Interest:

WRY - Kirkburton,
Huddersfield, Halifax.

Researcher:David Smith

Location: Birmingham, England
Email: D a v e 5 m i t h [at] y a h o o .com
Smith Chat Forum Username:44-DSM

Online Office Pigeon-hole: 44-dsm
Interests submitted:2005/updated 2008

Summary of Interests/Message

Aaron Smith Baptised 26 December 1813

Aaron SMITH married Rachel nee WEBSTER



Their son.......
Ben SMITH born 1834 in Kirkburton, WRY.
Ben SMITH married Sarah Ann SHAW in 1857


Their son.......
Wright SMITH born 1863 in Kirkburton.
Wright SMITH married Sarah Ann HILL in 1885



Their son.......
David Wright SMITH born 1904 Halifax

The following individuals from this family are

included in the Smith Ancestors A-Z Index:
Aaron / Bpt 10 Mar 1748/49 Kirkburton
Aaron / Bpt 26 Dec1813 Kirkburton
Ben / 1834 Kirkburton
David Wright (Smith) / 1904 Halifax
James / c1650 Kirkburton
John / Bpt 28 Sep 1679 Kirkburton
John / Bpt 21 Feb 1781 Kirkburton
Robert / Bpt Apr 1710 Kirkburton
Wright / 1863 Kirkburton WRY



Kirkburton, All Hallows Church
© Copyright Bill Henderson and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons Licence.

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ID: 45-SHE

Interests: Any SMITH connections to

surname MORT families of Lancashire

(Mort one-name study)



Researcher: Sheila Mughal
Email contact through own website:
"Mort families of Lancashire"
Smith Chat Forum Username:

Online Office Pigeon-hole:45-she



Original contact 2005

Many thanks to Sheila who kindly offered for our records, any information/data from her website, relevant to SMITH Family History.

Summary below includes Smith-Mort connections of Abram, Aspull, Horwich,Westhoughton, Bedford, Leigh, Lowton, Wigan, Prestwich, Saddleworth, Little Hulton, & Chowbent (Atherton), Astley

A SMITH connection to the MORTs
for whom the Family Tree is charted
on the Mort site.....
Frances (A ?) SMITH (female)
b. 1857 Aspull, Lancashire (parents not yet known) 2nd wife of James MORT
(b 1849 Kenyon Lancashire)
Frances SMITH married James MORT
(s/o Thomas MORT & Ellen nee THOMASON)
m: 14 Jan 1878 Abram, Lancashire.

ID: 43-ERS

Town/s of Interest:

Lancs - Rochdale, Castleton,

Heywood,   Smallshaw.



Researcher: Dr Edward Reid-Smith

Location:Wagga Wagga NSW Australia
Email: E d w a r d . R e i d - S m i t h

[at]b ig p on d. com
Smith Chat Forum Username:

Online Office Pigeon-hole: 43-ers
Interests submitted: 2005/update 2006

Summary of Interests/Message

MY SMITH FAMILY
My first known Smith ancestor,
James, was born c.1808 somewhere in
Ireland (1841 & 1851 census),
or Rochdale (1861 census).
He is known to have lived in
Yorkshire Street, Rochdale 1824;
Church Lane, Rochdale 1836, 1838, 1841
& 1846; 41 Packer Street, Rochdale 1851;
and 2-4 Columbus Street, Rochdale 1861.

His occupation was given as a labourer
(1824 & 1846), chair bottomer (1836 & 1841),
plasterer (1851 & 1861) and white limer (1854).

If for the same couple, St Chad's
shows banns of marriage of James
to Mary Holt of Yorkshire Street
13-27 June 1824, but no ceremony
there (James would have been only
16 at the time).

Their first known child was William
(c.1830), and five others followed
between then and 1846.

Most members of this Smith family
worked in the local cotton industry,
marrying into other local families.

Emigration came when their grandson
Joseph and his wife Harriet with
their youngest son Albert went to
Canada 1920, and thence to USA 1923.

Albert's brothers Robert followed
in 1925 and Ernest c.1927.
However, Robert returned to Rochdale
in 1927, and his parents Joseph &
Harriet c.1932.

Descendants of Albert and Ernest Smith
still live in the USA, while descendants
of Robert now live in the UK (but no
longer in Lancashire) and Australia.

Living descendants of the children and
other grandchildren of the original
James Smith & Mary Holt have not yet been traced.



27 SMITH family members with data are
included in the ancestors first names index
Earliest birth: William SMITH born
c1830 ?Rochdale, son of James SMITH
& Mary nee HOLT
Latest birth: Robert SMITH born 1933
Castleton, son of Robert SMITH &
Emily Victoria nee REID



Joseph Smith

This is the earliest born-Smith
photograph which I have; it is of my
Joseph Smith, from a group photograph
taken in the USA about 1929-1930.



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ROCHDALE

"Its magnificent Town Hall built
in 1871 takes pride of place in the
centre of Rochdale, its original clock tower
destroyed by fire in 1883 and rebuilt in

1887, is also home to a majestic stained

glass window.

To commemorate the peace between the

two counties of Lancashire and Yorkshire

the statues of golden lions situated at the

front of the hall are decorated with the
Lancashire and Yorkshire emblems

on them....." much more at

>>Rochdale Town Talk >>

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Rochdale Parish Church of St Chad
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One known child of James Mort &
Frances nee Smith -
Nellie (Ellen ?) MORT, b. 1878, Hindley
1881 Census : Westhoughton -
"Blue Lion" 1 Lower Leigh Road
Frances Age 24yrs Occupation
Domestic Servant
1901 living with sister in Horwich,
Westhoughton.
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SMITH - MORT marriages,
registered at Wigan, Bury and Oldham

District Registry Offices

between 1837-1877(6 x entries)

1845 Wigan BMDref : C7L/1/46
SMITH Catharine m MORT James
at Bedford St. Thomas

1847 Bury BMDref: CE18/11/87
SMITH Margaret m MORT James
at Prestwich, St.Mary

1857 Wigan BMDref : ROL/7/170
SMITH Thomas m MORT Betty
Register Office, Leigh

1860 Wigan BMDref : C11L/1/300
SMITH John m MORT Alice
at Lowton St. Luke's

1865 Wigan BMDref : ROW/20/158
SMITH Thomas m MORT Ann
Register Office, Wigan

1872 Oldham BMDref S-WORTH-RM/3/104
SMITH George m MORT Sarah A.
Saddleworth Register Office

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1619 in Leigh

Margaret SMITH m Thomas MORT

Margaret was the daughter of
Robert SMITH of Little Hulton.

Given below are extracts from
material that Sheila has published
on the Mort site which include
reference to this marriage and family.



"Extracts from the Preston Guilds"
(Page 2 of 10)
Adam Mort’s eldest son, Thomas was
married in 1619 on October 21 of that year.

An annuity of £60 was settled on the bride,
MARGARET SMITH, daughter of yeoman
ROBERT SMITH of Little Hulton.



This money was to be paid twice yearly on June 24 and December 25 in the
south porch of the parish church at
Leigh. If any part of this sum remained
unpaid for ten days after these feast days,
a penalty of £15 was incurred. This
settlement deed is one of the rare
documents bearing the signature of
the great Adam Mort.



MARGARET outlived her husband by many
years and on October 28, 1675, her
executor Robert Mort released all
money due to her estate under this
1619 deed.



Very much later, April 14, 1699, Thomas Mort,

Grandson of Margaret [nee SMITH] showed the writing to Nathan Mort and Margaret Finch and explained why he thought the arrears had been forgiven.



Estate tenants, 1619
On the day after this annuity grant,
October 22, 1619, Adam Mort settled
the whole estate and lordship on Thomas Mort,
the eldest son and any male issue of the
marriage with MARGARET SMITH. If no son
happened to be born, but only daughters,
the heir Thomas had power to grant them
annuities of £100 or less. Thirty-one tenants
of Adam, whose names are set out in an
appendix, heard the settlement deed read
over to them on December 23, 1619, and
signified their agreement to it.

Extracts from :

Alder House & the Morts of Chowbent
Alder House near the town of Atherton
was built in 1697 by Ralph Astley and
his wife Ann.........
In 1724 Alder House was purchased in
joint ownership between Roger Rigby
and Adam Mort. There are two possible Adam Mort’s who could have purchased this property.......



1) Adam Mort re the younger brother
of Thomas Mort who inherited the position

of ‘Lord of the Manor of Astley’ after
his father Adam died in 1659. The other brothers being Robert and Alexander.

Adam Mort’s GRANDPARENTS were THOMAS MORT of Hulton and MARGARET SMITH, and his Great Grandfather was the original Adam Mort of Dam House.



2) Adam Mort son of Thomas Mort of Peel House in Little Hulton. His GRANDPARENTS were ALSO THOMAS MORT of Hulton and MARGARET SMITH and his Great Grandfather was also the original Adam Mort of Dam House.



Alder House today, Atherton (Chowbent)

©Sheila Mughal

Mort families of Lancashire, Online Resource

More about Atherton

...became a Parish in 1859. Before that date it was a township in the Parish of Leigh. An interesting account about the town's history, has been provided by Peter Wood at the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks site

>> Atherton or Chowbent, A Town with Two Names >>

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